cryhounds
often middle-class leftist obsessions with the guilloutine unsettle me not because im against violence (im not) (especially not against an unjust nationstate) but rather i am against executions especially by literally any state ever. & i cant fuck with people who are like "okay but we will execute people morally this time" girl thats what you said the last 5,000 times it never works give it UP.
cryhounds
person with $95 guilloutine earrings telling me excitedly about how they cant wait to watch a class of people be publically executed and i just think maybe someone should tell you that your outright glee to see violence-as-spectacle especially if you are not a part of the vulnerable population is something you should be deeply ashamed of. this isnt to tone-police those who have been acute and vulnerable victims of capitalism, but those populations are all too aware of the potential consequences of politicized violent unrest, AND are the first to be harmed by those consequences in a situation such as this. your obsession with violence is not terrifying to me because i feel some need to protect jeff bezos or whatever, but rather because the fallout of your bloodlust WILL hurt victims you did not intend if you are not careful, and harm reduction should be more important to you than exacting revenge.
thelearnedwobbly
The guillotine is a nice meme, but there's a reason leftism is supposed to prioritise mutual aid and community defense. Will there be violence if we can create societies based on the common welfare in which the state and capital are made irrelevant? Of course, they current hegemonic system will never cede power willingly. Will there likely be people too dangerous to allow to reenter the civilian population and who cannot and will not be deprogrammed, such as die-hard fascists and the like, who need to be removed because the alternative is them running a guerilla war or terrorbombing a school or trying to hold them in a pen for eighty years? Tragically, most likely.
But the fetishisation of revolutionary violence is how we get Terrors and Purges and a new system that's just like the old but with a red coat of paint(looking at you, Tankies). The problem isn't the willingness to engage in violence--if anything, more leftists need to be prepared for what happens if we start building the world we dream of. The problem is that if your attitude is of violence as the goal, you cannot be trusted to know when to stop. Retributive Justice, while cathartic to fantasise about, cannot be the answer, or we will just keep doing this song and dance until the sun explodes.
thelearnedwobbly
Since someone in my notes didn't get the fucking memo; I am a revolutionary anarchist. I am not going to sit here an let you recite from the black book of communism in my tags or notes. If you want to jerk off about the power of peaceful protest and liberal reform, find another blog to follow. My comments above are about people who think "revolution" means changing who gets to wear the boot and shoot the outgroup. I am not a neoliberal shill who thinks we can make a better world if we just vote hard enough. The master's house cannot be dismantled with the master's tools--the path to liberation is class solidarity, mutual aid, self defense, and building a world independent of the capitalist class and their cronies. No amount of state-approved marching around or pithy slogans will save us from armaggeddon, and they will never approve of a movement thay poses a credible threat to their hegemony.
So let me say it again: the master's house cannot be dismantled with the master's tools.